Metal Gear Solid and Death Stranding creator Hideo Kojima has mocked one of his upcoming games calling it almost “a new medium.”

In a recent interview with The Guardian, Kojima discussed one of his upcoming titles, explaining that it’s something he’s wanted to do for years, but the technology just wasn’t up to the task until now. “It’s almost like a new medium,” Kojima said. “If this is successful, it will change things, not only in the games industry, but also in the film industry.”

Kojima didn’t provide any details on what exactly this means, but did talk about how with new ideas, it’s usually the second or third person that is likely to be commercially successful. “For the first person, everything is difficult,” he said. “But I want to be the first. I want to continue to be the first.”

The Guardian notes that the project discussed here was an unknown second project, unrelated to the follow-up to Death Stranding that we all know is happening thanks to actor Norman Reedus.

Earlier this month, Kojima teased one of his upcoming projects and later revealed that actress Elle Fanning will appear in it, though it’s unclear if this is related to the rumored Death Stranding 2, or the unannounced second project. Many speculate that there will be a proper reveal at The Game Awards, considering how often host Geoff Keighley and Kojima collaborate with each other.

The second project is also possibly what Hideo Kojima was talking about when he announced his partnership with Xbox Game Studios earlier this year, as Death Stranding is still a PlayStation console exclusive. Kojima later noted that he still has a “really good relationship” with Sony following the Xbox reveal, where he also alluded to this second mystery project that will apparently use Xbox’s cloud technology.